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Toronto Raptors at Detroit Pistons, NBA forecast

NBA Cup - Group Play

Away

Raptors

5-5

29%

at

Home

Pistons

7-3

71%

The pick
DET · Strong
Line
Not yet
Projected
107–114
Fair odds
-247

Your pick

Little Caesars Arena · Prime Video

The short version

  • No betting line is up yet, so this is our pre-line forecast: the Pistons at 71%, from our Elo ratings and what past lines said about each team. It switches to the line once one posts.
  • Behind that number: the Pistons rate higher (1612 to 1521 Elo), lineup changes favor the Pistons and the Pistons have home court.

What's at stake

Each team's chance to make the playoffs if it wins this game and if it loses, from 10,000 simulations of the rest of the season.

Raptors

Now 77%

79%

with a win

76%

with a loss

This game is worth 4 points of playoff chance to them.

Pistons

Now >99%

>99%

with a win

>99%

with a loss

Their playoff odds barely move on this one.

The pick

No line is posted yet, so this is the pre-line forecast: Elo blended with ratings learned from past lines. It switches to the line once one is posted.

Pistons 71%

Strong
TOR 29%DET 71%

Forecast Elo ratings alone

How often that comes true: NBA favorites the forecast gave 70–75% have won 75.3% of 360 graded games.

Market
No line yet
Pre-line forecast
DET 71%
Elo + market-implied
Elo ratings
DET -5.5
DET 71%
Fair odds
DET -247
TOR +247 · the forecast as odds, no margin
Projected score
TOR 107.3 – 114.2 DET
Margin from the forecast, total from team scoring ratings

How the number is built

Elo inputs in rating points (higher favors that team; 25–28 Elo is about a point of spread in football and basketball), then how the pieces combine.

FactorTORDETWhy
Team rating15211612Elo entering the game; 1500 is league average
Home field—+36Worth 36 Elo in the NBA
Lineups−60−21TOR: Missing Kawhi Leonard −65, Scottie Barnes −33, Immanuel Quickley (40% to sit) −9 · otherwise stronger than recent lineups · DET: Missing Jalen Duren −32, Isaiah Joe −5 · otherwise stronger than recent lineups (from the injury report)
Travel—−12DET crossed 1 time zone heading east to this game: 12 Elo per zone for body-clock lag
Elo ratingsDET +155 EloDET 70.9%
Market-implied ratingsDET 71.2%Team strength as past closing lines priced it, same game context
Pre-line forecastDET 71.2%10% Elo, 90% market-implied (log-odds blend)

Tale of the tape

This season coming into the game, regular season, each number with its league rank (the longer the bar, the higher). Home and road: the host's record at home against the visitor's on the road. Opponent Elo: how strong the teams each has played are, 1st the toughest. Adjusted: the scoring model’s ratings a game, which account for who they played. Offense and defense are points per 100 possessions, which sets aside how fast a team plays.

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Toronto Raptors and Detroit Pistons compared, with each team's league rank
TORStatDET
9th of 30116.6Points scored112.717th of 30
15th of 30113.3Points allowed104.63rd of 30
13th of 30+3.3Margin+8.17th of 30
12th of 30113.3Offense rating112.315th of 30
12th of 30110.1Defense rating104.22nd of 30
4th of 30102.8Pace100.224th of 30
12th of 303–3Road vs home3–212th of 30
23rd of 301475Opponent Elo150517th of 30
14th of 301521Elo rating16127th of 30
13th of 30+0.6Offense, adjusted−0.218th of 30
11th of 30+0.8Defense, adjusted+4.73rd of 30

Who's playing

Each team's projected rotation from its current roster and the latest injury report. Minutes follow each player's usual role, with absent players' minutes handed to the rest. The Elo badge compares tonight's lineup with the team's recent ones.

All player ratings →

Raptors

−60 Elo
PlayerMinRatingStatus
RJ Barrett3521.3Available
Ja'Kobe Walter3114.8Available
Jamal Shead2815.1Available
Jakob Poeltl2421.0Available
Malachi Smith2415.6Available
Jamison Battle2115.1Available
Immanuel Quickley1921.4Day-To-Day−9
Collin Murray-Boyles1520.2Day-To-Day−4
Alijah Martin1518.0Available
Allen Graves1318.5Available
Kyle Anderson716.2Available
Jaden Bradley518.6Available

Pistons

−21 Elo
PlayerMinRatingStatus
Cade Cunningham3326.8Available
Duncan Robinson3119.2Available
Daniss Jenkins2819.4Available
Ausar Thompson2720.2Available
John Collins2619.0Available
Kevin Huerter2517.8Available
Paul Reed2423.7Available
Javonte Green1518.0Available
Ronald Holland II1516.2Available
Elijah Harkless814.9Available
Jalen Duren—26.6Out−32
Isaiah Joe—21.5Out−5

Rating history

Each team's Elo over the last two seasons. Hover or drag to compare on any date.

RaptorsPistons
1400145015001550160016501700league averageNovJanMarMayJulSepNov

Injury report

Current ESPN report. Elo values show what the model subtracts.

Raptors

6 listed
  • Trayce Jackson-Davis F

    Day-To-Day

    Jackson-Davis is questionable for Wednesday's game against Boston with an illness.

  • Collin Murray-Boyles F

    Day-To-Day

    Murray-Boyles (illness) is questionable for Wednesday's game against the Celtics.

  • Immanuel Quickley G

    Day-To-Day

    Quickley (hamstring) is questionable for Wednesday's game against Boston.

  • Scottie Barnes F

    Out

    Barnes (groin) is out for Wednesday's game against Boston.

  • Kawhi Leonard F

    Out

    Leonard (knee) is continuing the reconditioning process, and another update will be provided in one week, Blake Murphy of Sportsnet.ca reports.

  • Nate Bittle C

    Out

    Bittle (foot) is listed as out for Monday's game against Memphis.

Pistons

2 listed
  • Isaiah Joe G

    Out

    Joe (hip) is out for Monday against the Wizards.

  • Jalen Duren C

    Out

    Duren (hamstring) has begun on-court activity and will be re-evaluated in two weeks, Hunter Patterson of The Athletic reports.

Recent form

Last five results, and whether the forecast hit.

Against the line

How each team has done against the closing spread and total, coming into this game.

This seasonTORDET
Against the spread5–36–3
Last 105–36–3
Favorite5–25–2
Underdog0–11–1
Overs–unders4–46–3
Overs–unders, last 104–46–3

Against each game's closing line. Books set every line knowing these records: across 3,901 past games, the team with the better record against the spread so far that season covered 51.2%, short of the 52.4% a standard −110 bet needs, and over/under streaks held 48.0% of the time. They describe the past.

Head to head

TOR 2–8 DET in their last 10 meetings; the forecast called 7 of 10.