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Toronto Raptors at Detroit Pistons, NBA forecast

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Raptors

8-31

114–123

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Pistons

20-19

TOR 35%DET 65%

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Win probability

Starts from the pregame forecast, then moves with every score and the time left. Above the line favors DET; hover for each play.

DET favored TOR favored118 scoring plays
Q1Q2Q3Q4DET50%TOR

Game center

From the ESPN box score.

Top performers

Raptors
Pistons

Last plays

  • Q40.0End of Game114–123
  • Q40.0End of the 4th Quarter114–123
  • Q45.1shot clock turnover114–123
  • Q428.1Cade Cunningham defensive rebound114–123
  • Q431.0RJ Barrett misses 25-foot three point jumper114–123
  • Q436.0Jalen Duren makes free throw 2 of 2114–123
  • Q436.0Jalen Duren makes free throw 1 of 2114–122
  • Q436.0Jakob Poeltl personal foul114–121
  • Q437.0Pistons Full timeout114–121
  • Q437.0Jakob Poeltl makes 1-foot layup114–121

Turning points

The 5 plays that swung the win chance most, each judged at its own moment: the chance with the score just before it against just after.

  1. Q46:37Malik Beasley makes 27-foot three point jumper (Cade Cunningham assists)TOR 104 – 109 DET · DET 66% → 80% +14
  2. Q45:44Immanuel Quickley makes 24-foot running pullup jump shot (RJ Barrett assists)TOR 107 – 109 DET · TOR 19% → 33% +14
  3. Q45:04Immanuel Quickley makes 15-foot step back jumpshotTOR 109 – 109 DET · TOR 33% → 45% +12
  4. Q44:44Tobias Harris makes 8-foot driving floating jump shotTOR 109 – 111 DET · DET 55% → 67% +13
  5. Q43:49Cade Cunningham makes 10-foot two point shotTOR 109 – 113 DET · DET 68% → 80% +12

The pick

Reconstructed from what was known before the game: the ratings at that point and the closing line.

Pistons 65%

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TOR 35%DET 65%

Forecast Elo ratings alone

How often that comes true: NBA favorites the forecast gave 65–70% have won 65.2% of 388 graded games.

Market
DET -5.5
ML TOR +175 / DET -210
Pre-line forecast
DET 67%
Elo + market-implied
Elo ratings
DET -5.5
DET 71%
Ratings vs. market
+5.5 pts
DET: Elo 70.6%, market 65.1%
Fair odds
DET -186
TOR +186 · the forecast as odds, no margin
Pregame projection
TOR 110.5 – 116.0 DET
Posted spread, posted total 226.5

How the number is built

Elo inputs in rating points (higher favors that team; 25–28 Elo is about a point of spread in football and basketball), then how the pieces combine.

FactorTORDETWhy
Team rating13461450Elo entering the game; 1500 is league average
Home field—+36Worth 36 Elo in the NBA
Lineups+6+17TOR: Stronger than its recent lineups · DET: Stronger than its recent lineups (from the box score)
Elo ratingsDET +152 EloDET 70.6%
Market-implied ratingsDET 66.4%Team strength as past closing lines priced it, same game context
Pre-line forecastDET 66.9%10% Elo, 90% market-implied (log-odds blend)
ForecastDET 65.1%Follows the market (vig removed): in testing, adding the ratings made it less accurate

Tale of the tape

This season coming into the game, regular season, each number with its league rank (the longer the bar, the higher). Home and road: the host's record at home against the visitor's on the road. Offense and defense are points per 100 possessions, which sets aside how fast a team plays.

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Toronto Raptors and Detroit Pistons compared, with each team's league rank
TORStatDET
19th of 30111.1Points scored111.816th of 30
27th of 30119.1Points allowed113.216th of 30
28th of 30−8.1Margin−1.418th of 30
23rd of 30108.3Offense rating110.217th of 30
28th of 30116.2Defense rating111.517th of 30
7th of 30101.6Pace100.319th of 30
29th of 301–9Last 108–23rd of 30
30th of 301–17Road vs home9–919th of 30

Who's playing

Who sat out, from the box score, and what each absence cost against the lineups the team had been playing.

All player ratings →

Raptors

+6 Elo

Full strength: nobody who matters sat out.

Pistons

+17 Elo

Full strength: nobody who matters sat out.

Rating history

Each team's Elo over the last two seasons. Hover or drag to compare on any date.

RaptorsPistons
1400145015001550160016501700league averageNovJanMarMayJulSepNov

Against the line

How each team has done against the closing spread and total, coming into this game.

This seasonTORDET
Against the spread22–1620–18
Last 103–76–4
Favorite1–24–9
Underdog21–1416–9
Overs–unders20–1819–19
Overs–unders, last 107–35–5

Against each game's closing line. Books set every line knowing these records: across 3,901 past games, the team with the better record against the spread so far that season covered 51.2%, short of the 52.4% a standard −110 bet needs, and over/under streaks held 48.0% of the time. They describe the past.

Head to head

TOR 1–4 DET in their last 5 meetings; the forecast called 4 of 5.