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Golden State Warriors at San Antonio Spurs, NBA forecast

NBA Cup - Group Play

Away

Warriors

8-3

29%

at

Home

Spurs

9-2

71%

The pick
SA · Strong
Line
Not yet
Projected
110–117
Fair odds
-248

Your pick

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The short version

  • No betting line is up yet, so this is our pre-line forecast: the Spurs at 71%, from our Elo ratings and what past lines said about each team. It switches to the line once one posts.
  • Behind that number: the Spurs rate higher (1670 to 1550 Elo), lineup changes favor the Warriors and the Spurs have home court.
  • Likely out: Kristaps Porzingis (GS) and Jimmy Butler III (GS).

What's at stake

Each team's chance to make the playoffs if it wins this game and if it loses, from 10,000 simulations of the rest of the season.

Warriors

Now 86%

88%

with a win

85%

with a loss

This game is worth 3 points of playoff chance to them.

Spurs

Now >99%

>99%

with a win

100%

with a loss

Their playoff odds barely move on this one.

How the forecast moved

SA went from 71% to 71% over 4 updates, with no betting line yet. Updates come from lines, injury news and results elsewhere in the league.

Forecast (SA win chance) Betting line, margin removed
65%73%80%Mon 10 PMTue 11 AMWed 12 AM

The pick

Live forecast: refreshes with lines and injury news until the game starts, then locks. No line is posted yet, so this is the pre-line forecast: Elo blended with ratings learned from past lines. It switches to the line once one is posted.

Spurs 71%

Strong
GS 29%SA 71%

Forecast Elo ratings alone

How often that comes true: NBA favorites the forecast gave 70–75% have won 75.3% of 360 graded games.

Market
No line yet
Pre-line forecast
SA 71%
Elo + market-implied
Elo ratings
SA -4.5
SA 67%
Fair odds
SA -248
GS +248 · the forecast as odds, no margin
Projected score
GS 109.8 – 116.7 SA
Margin from the forecast, total from team scoring ratings

How the number is built

Elo inputs in rating points (higher favors that team; 25–28 Elo is about a point of spread in football and basketball), then how the pieces combine.

FactorGSSAWhy
Team rating15501670Elo entering the game; 1500 is league average
Home field—+36Worth 36 Elo in the NBA
Lineups+370GS: Missing Jimmy Butler III −44, Kristaps Porzingis −31, Brandon Williams −4 · otherwise stronger than recent lineups · SA: Missing Tobias Harris −1 (from the injury report)
Elo ratingsSA +119 EloSA 66.5%
Market-implied ratingsSA 71.8%Team strength as past closing lines priced it, same game context
Pre-line forecastSA 71.3%10% Elo, 90% market-implied (log-odds blend)

Tale of the tape

This season coming into the game, regular season, each number with its league rank (the longer the bar, the higher). Home and road: the host's record at home against the visitor's on the road. Opponent Elo: how strong the teams each has played are, 1st the toughest. Adjusted: the scoring model’s ratings a game, which account for who they played. Offense and defense are points per 100 possessions, which sets aside how fast a team plays.

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Golden State Warriors and San Antonio Spurs compared, with each team's league rank
GSStatSA
2nd of 30120.4Points scored118.74th of 30
12th of 30111.2Points allowed107.06th of 30
4th of 30+9.2Margin+11.71st of 30
2nd of 30118.3Offense rating116.64th of 30
11th of 30109.3Defense rating105.15th of 30
22nd of 30100.8Pace101.018th of 30
3rd of 278–2Last 109–11st of 27
13th of 302–2Road vs home4–28th of 30
10th of 301518Opponent Elo147025th of 30
9th of 301550Elo rating16702nd of 30
5th of 30+2.1Offense, adjusted+2.92nd of 30
13th of 30+0.6Defense, adjusted+4.75th of 30

Player props

Projected from minutes and per-minute production, next to sportsbook lines once they post. Over chances follow the book's own number with its margin removed, which was the more accurate of the two on 118,175 graded NBA lines (log loss 0.682 vs our model's 0.708). Where our model disagreed with the price by 10+ points (tagged "model"), bets won 51% and returned −3.4% a bet over 23,670 graded lines. Not betting advice.

Your parlay →
PlayerProjLineOverParlay
Stephen CurryGS23.4—— No line
Victor WembanyamaSA23.2—— No line
Yaxel LendeborgGS18.5—— No line
Dylan HarperSA15.9—— No line
Brandin PodziemskiGS15.6—— No line
Stephon CastleSA14.6—— No line
De'Aaron FoxSA13.4—— No line
Devin VassellSA60% to play11.1—— No line
Keldon JohnsonSA10.3—— No line
De'Anthony MeltonGS10.3—— No line
Julian ChampagnieSA9.3—— No line
Georges NiangGS9.2—— No line
Gui SantosGS7.8—— No line
Charles BasseyGS7.3—— No line
Al HorfordGS5.9—— No line
Draymond GreenGS5.9—— No line
Harrison BarnesSA5.6—— No line
Luke KornetSA3.7—— No line
Carter BryantSA3.5—— No line

Who's playing

Each team's projected rotation from its current roster and the latest injury report. Minutes follow each player's usual role, with absent players' minutes handed to the rest. The Elo badge compares tonight's lineup with the team's recent ones.

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Warriors

+37 Elo
PlayerMinRatingStatus
Brandin Podziemski3220.0Available
Yaxel Lendeborg3020.8Available
Stephen Curry2929.4Available
Draymond Green2714.9Available
De'Anthony Melton2319.3Available
Georges Niang2216.4Available
Gui Santos1918.4Available
Al Horford1819.0Available
Charles Bassey1618.9Available
Graham Ike918.4Available
LJ Cryer817.0Available
Malevy Leons614.6Available

Spurs

0 Elo
PlayerMinRatingStatus
Dylan Harper2924.1Available
Stephon Castle2822.0Available
De'Aaron Fox2724.0Available
Victor Wembanyama2735.5Available
Keldon Johnson2419.7Available
Julian Champagnie2419.1Available
Devin Vassell1719.6Day-To-Day
Harrison Barnes1517.8Available
Luke Kornet1419.8Available
Carter Bryant1014.3Available
Jordan McLaughlin717.2Available
Maliq Brown617.9Available

Rating history

Each team's Elo over the last two seasons. Hover or drag to compare on any date.

WarriorsSpurs
14001500160017001800league averageNovJanMarMayJulSepNov

Injury report

Current ESPN report. Elo values show what the model subtracts.

Warriors

6 listed
  • Jimmy Butler III F

    −44 EloOut

    28 min a game when healthy · 27.5 Game Score per 48

    Butler (knee) could return sometime between January and February as he continues recovering from a torn right ACL, Anthony Slater of ESPN reports.

  • Kristaps Porzingis C

    −31 EloOut

    25 min a game when healthy · 25.4 Game Score per 48

    Porzingis announced on his social media that he's stepping away from basketball.

  • Brandon Williams G

    −4 EloOut

    15 min a game when healthy · 20.0 Game Score per 48

    Williams (hamstring) will miss at least one week, per Anthony Slater of ESPN.com.

  • Gary Payton II G

    Out

    Payton (knee) is out for Wednesday's game against Houston.

  • Will Richard G

    Out

    Richard (thumb) is questionable for Wednesday's game against Houston.

  • Moses Moody G

    Out

    Moody (knee) is progressing toward a potential return between December and January after rupturing his left patellar tendon in March, Anthony Slater of ESPN reports.

Spurs

3 listed
  • Tobias Harris F

    −1 EloOut

    31 min a game when healthy · 20.6 Game Score per 48

    Harris (calf) is out for Wednesday's game against Chicago, Jared Weiss of The Athletic reports.

  • Devin Vassell G

    Day-To-Day

    Vassell (groin) is listed as questionable for Wednesday's game versus the Bulls, NBA reporter Matthew Tynan reports.

  • Jayden Quaintance F

    Out

    Quaintance has been around the team but has not yet been cleared for basketball activities, Matt Guzman of SI.com reports.

Recent form

Last five results, and whether the forecast hit.

Against the line

How each team has done against the closing spread and total, coming into this game.

This seasonGSSA
Against the spread6–25–6
Last 106–25–5
Favorite2–15–6
Underdog4–1—
Overs–unders4–43–8
Overs–unders, last 104–43–7

Against each game's closing line. Books set every line knowing these records: across 3,901 past games, the team with the better record against the spread so far that season covered 51.2%, short of the 52.4% a standard −110 bet needs, and over/under streaks held 48.0% of the time. They describe the past.

Head to head

GS 6–5 SA in their last 11 meetings; the forecast called 6 of 11.