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Orlando Magic at Phoenix Suns, NBA forecast

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Magic

2-6

104–117

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Suns

2-5

ORL 47%PHX 53%

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Win probability

Starts from the pregame forecast, then moves with every score and the time left. Above the line favors PHX; hover for each play.

PHX favored ORL favored107 scoring plays
Q1Q2Q3Q4PHX50%ORL

How the forecast moved

PHX went from 50% to 53% over 10 updates; the betting line was first on file Thursday, November 5 at 12:15 AM ET. Updates come from lines, injury news and results elsewhere in the league.

Forecast (PHX win chance) Betting line, margin removed
45%53%60%Mon 9 PMWed 9 AMThu 9 PM

Game center

From the ESPN box score.

Top performers

Magic
Suns

Last plays

  • Q40.0End of Game104–117
  • Q40.0End of the 4th Quarter104–117
  • Q40.2shot clock turnover104–117
  • Q425.4Koa Peat defensive rebound104–117
  • Q425.4Jamal Cain misses 25-foot three point jumper104–117
  • Q440.1Pat Spencer lost ball turnover (Alex Morales steals)104–117
  • Q41:04Goga Bitadze makes 1-foot running dunk (Jase Richardson assists)104–117
  • Q41:09Jamaree Bouyea lost ball turnover (Jase Richardson steals)102–117
  • Q41:20Jase Richardson makes 14-foot driving floating jump shot (Colin Castleton assists)102–117
  • Q41:36Pat Spencer out of bounds lost ball turnover100–117

Turning points

The 5 plays that swung the win chance most, each judged at its own moment: the chance with the score just before it against just after.

  1. Q17:30Miles Bridges makes 24-foot three point jumper (Devin Booker assists)ORL 14 – 13 PHX · PHX 44% → 50% +7
  2. Q13:21Dillon Brooks makes 25-foot running pullup jump shot (Ryan Dunn assists)ORL 19 – 26 PHX · PHX 61% → 68% +6
  3. Q27:06Luke Kennard makes 23-foot three point jumper (Jalen Green assists)ORL 35 – 44 PHX · PHX 67% → 74% +7
  4. Q25:01Dillon Brooks makes 24-foot three point jumper (Devin Booker assists)ORL 39 – 49 PHX · PHX 70% → 76% +7
  5. Q23:40Tristan da Silva makes 23-foot three point jumper (Franz Wagner assists)ORL 46 – 54 PHX · ORL 21% → 28% +6

The pick

Locked forecast: logged before the game started and graded as-is. Anchored on the betting line, which beat every rating model in testing.

Suns 53%

Toss-upHit
ORL 47%PHX 53%

Forecast Elo ratings alone

How often that comes true: NBA favorites the forecast gave 50–55% have won 49.4% of 342 graded games.

Market
PHX -1.5
ML ORL +102 / PHX -121
Pre-line forecast
PHX 52%
Elo + market-implied
Elo ratings
PHX -0.5
PHX 52%
Ratings vs. market
−0.5 pts
PHX: Elo 52.0%, market 52.5%
Fair odds
PHX -111
ORL +111 · the forecast as odds, no margin
ESPN's forecast
PHX 51%
Their last number before the game. Head-to-head
Pregame projection
ORL 111.5 – 113.0 PHX
Posted spread, posted total 224.5

How the number is built

Elo inputs in rating points (higher favors that team; 25–28 Elo is about a point of spread in football and basketball), then how the pieces combine.

FactorORLPHXWhy
Team rating14841466Elo entering the game; 1500 is league average
Home field—+36Worth 36 Elo in the NBA
Rest—−40PHX on the second night of a back-to-back
Lineups−43−7ORL: Missing Paolo Banchero −30, Jalen Suggs −2, Izaiyah Nelson −1 · otherwise weaker than recent lineups · PHX: Missing Mark Williams −15 · otherwise stronger than recent lineups (from the injury report)
Elo ratingsPHX +14 EloPHX 52.0%
Market-implied ratingsPHX 51.5%Team strength as past closing lines priced it, same game context
Pre-line forecastPHX 51.5%10% Elo, 90% market-implied (log-odds blend)
ForecastPHX 52.5%Follows the market (vig removed): in testing, adding the ratings made it less accurate

Tale of the tape

This season coming into the game, regular season, each number with its league rank (the longer the bar, the higher). Home and road: the host's record at home against the visitor's on the road. Opponent Elo: how strong the teams each has played are, 1st the toughest. Offense and defense are points per 100 possessions, which sets aside how fast a team plays.

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Orlando Magic and Phoenix Suns compared, with each team's league rank
ORLStatPHX
29th of 30105.7Points scored113.315th of 30
20th of 30114.7Points allowed124.329th of 30
24th of 30−9.0Margin−11.025th of 30
25th of 30105.6Offense rating111.713th of 30
25th of 30114.6Defense rating122.530th of 30
23rd of 30100.3Pace101.218th of 30
8th of 302–1Road vs home1–220th of 30
4th of 301542Opponent Elo15491st of 30
17th of 301484Elo rating146619th of 30

Who's playing

Who sat out, from the box score, and what each absence cost against the lineups the team had been playing.

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Magic

−43 Elo

Full strength: nobody who matters sat out.

Suns

−7 Elo

Full strength: nobody who matters sat out.

Rating history

Each team's Elo over the last two seasons. Hover or drag to compare on any date.

MagicSuns
140014501500155016001650league averageNovJanMarMayJulSepNov

Against the line

How each team has done against the closing spread and total, coming into this game.

This seasonORLPHX
Against the spread1–40–6
Last 101–40–6
Favorite0–30–1
Underdog1–10–5
Overs–unders3–25–1
Overs–unders, last 103–25–1

Against each game's closing line. Books set every line knowing these records: across 3,901 past games, the team with the better record against the spread so far that season covered 51.2%, short of the 52.4% a standard −110 bet needs, and over/under streaks held 48.0% of the time. They describe the past.

Head to head

ORL 4–2 PHX in their last 6 meetings; the forecast called 5 of 6.