Detroit Red Wings at Florida Panthers, NHL forecast
The short version
- No betting line is up yet, so this is our pre-line forecast: the Panthers at 61%, from our Elo ratings and what past lines said about each team. It switches to the line once one posts.
- Behind that number: the Panthers rate higher (1511 to 1474 Elo) and the Panthers have home ice.
What's at stake
Each team's chance to make the playoffs if it wins this game and if it loses, from 10,000 simulations of the rest of the season.
Red Wings
Now 20%
25%
with a win
17%
with a loss
This game is worth 7 points of playoff chance to them.
Panthers
Now 48%
51%
with a win
43%
with a loss
This game is worth 7 points of playoff chance to them.
How the forecast moved
FLA went from 61% to 62% over 3 updates, with no betting line yet. Updates come from lines, injury news and results elsewhere in the league.
The pick
Live forecast: refreshes with lines and injury news until the game starts, then locks. No line is posted yet, so this is the pre-line forecast: Elo blended with ratings learned from past lines. It switches to the line once one is posted.
Panthers 61%
Forecast Elo ratings alone
How often that comes true: NHL favorites the forecast gave 60–65% have won 62.4% of 599 graded games.
- Market
- No line yet
- Pre-line forecast
- FLA 61%
- Elo + market-implied
- Elo ratings
- FLA 60%
- Fair odds
- FLA -159
- DET +159 · the forecast as odds, no margin
- Projected score
- DET 2.8 – 3.4 FLA
- Margin from the forecast, total from team scoring ratings
How the number is built
Elo inputs in rating points (higher favors that team; 25–28 Elo is about a point of spread in football and basketball), then how the pieces combine.
| Factor | DET | FLA | Why |
|---|---|---|---|
| Team rating | 1474 | 1511 | Elo entering the game; 1500 is league average |
| Home field | — | +35 | Worth 35 Elo in the NHL |
| Starting goalies | 0 | +2 | DET: John Gibson: team allows 0.01 fewer goals than with its usual starter (≈47 weighted starts) · FLA: Jacob Markstrom: team allows 0.06 fewer goals than with its usual starter (≈48 weighted starts) |
| Injuries | — | −3 | Key absences: Sandis Vilmanis |
| Elo ratings | FLA +71 Elo | FLA 60.0% | |
| Market-implied ratings | FLA 61.8% | Team strength as past closing lines priced it, same game context | |
| Pre-line forecast | FLA 61.4% | 20% Elo, 80% market-implied (log-odds blend) | |
Tale of the tape
This season coming into the game, regular season, each number with its league rank (the longer the bar, the higher). Home and road: the host's record at home against the visitor's on the road. Overtime and shootout losses count as losses in these records. Opponent Elo: how strong the teams each has played are, 1st the toughest. Shot share is a team's share of the shots on goal in its games. PDO adds shooting and save percentages: far from 100 tends to even out.
| DET | Stat | FLA |
|---|---|---|
| 27th of 322.7 | Goals scored | 3.216th of 32 |
| 15th of 323.1 | Goals allowed | 2.99th of 32 |
| 24th of 32−0.4 | Margin | +0.212th of 32 |
| 8th of 3252.9% | Shot share | 53.1%7th of 32 |
| 21st of 3288.7% | Save percentage | 89.2%15th of 32 |
| 21st of 324–6 | Last 10 | 5–514th of 32 |
| 22nd of 323–6 | Road vs home | 4–28th of 32 |
| 24th of 321492 | Opponent Elo | 148530th of 32 |
| 24th of 321474 | Elo rating | 151114th of 32 |
Player props
Projected from ice time and per-minute production, and each goalie's expected shots against, next to sportsbook lines once they post. Over chances follow the book's own number with its margin removed, which was the more accurate of the two on 159,528 graded NHL lines (log loss 0.549 vs our model's 0.551). Where our model disagreed with the price by 10+ points (tagged "model"), bets won 57% and returned +6.9% a bet over 2,488 graded lines. Not betting advice.
| Player | Role | Proj | L5 | Line | L10 | Over | Model | Parlay |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Matthew TkachukFLA | 18 min | 1.2 | 1.4 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Sam ReinhartFLA | 19 min | 0.9 | 1.2 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Brady TkachukFLA | 17 min | 0.9 | 1.0 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Alex DeBrincatDET | 19 min | 0.9 | 0.2 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Lucas RaymondDET | 19 min | 0.9 | 0.8 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Carter VerhaegheFLA | 18 min | 0.8 | 1.0 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Viktor ArvidssonDET | 17 min | 0.7 | 0.2 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Sam BennettFLA | 17 min | 0.7 | 0.8 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Seth JonesFLA | 24 min | 0.7 | 0.6 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Anton LundellFLA | 17 min | 0.6 | 1.0 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Moritz SeiderDET | 25 min | 0.6 | 0.6 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Andrew CoppDET | 19 min | 0.5 | 1.0 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Emmitt FinnieDET | 20 min | 0.5 | 0.2 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Justin FaulkDET | 22 min | 0.5 | 0.6 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Aaron EkbladFLA | 21 min | 0.4 | 0.6 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Eetu LuostarinenFLA | 15 min | 0.4 | 0.2 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Lars EllerFLA | 16 min | 0.4 | 0.4 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| J.T. CompherDET | 16 min | 0.4 | 0.4 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Michael Brandsegg-NygardDET | 16 min | 0.4 | 0.4 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| William WallinderDET | 19 min | 0.3 | 0.0 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Gustav ForslingFLA | 22 min | 0.3 | 0.0 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Cole ReinhardtFLA | 12 min | 0.3 | 0.8 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Marco KasperDET | 14 min | 0.3 | 0.2 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Anton JohanssonDET | 13 min | 0.3 | 0.2 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Michael RasmussenDET | 14 min | 0.2 | 0.0 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Uvis BalinskisFLA | 14 min | 0.2 | 0.2 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Niko MikkolaFLA | 19 min | 0.2 | 0.0 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Axel Sandin-PellikkaDET | 12 min | 0.2 | 0.2 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Mason AppletonDET | 11 min | 0.2 | 0.0 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Radko GudasFLA | 14 min | 0.2 | 0.0 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Ben ChiarotDET | 21 min | 0.2 | 0.2 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Garnet HathawayFLA | 11 min | 0.2 | 0.2 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Jack DevineFLA | 10 min | 0.1 | 0.0 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Dmitry KulikovFLA | 15 min | 0.1 | 0.0 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Sheldon DriesDET | 11 min | 0.1 | 0.2 | — | — | — | — | No line |
| Andreas EnglundDET | 14 min | 0.1 | 0.0 | — | — | — | — | No line |
Rating history
Each team's Elo over the last two seasons. Hover or drag to compare on any date.
Injury report
Current ESPN report. Elo values show what the model subtracts.
Red Wings
3 listedAlbert Johansson D
Injured ReserveJohansson (undisclosed) will be with the Red Wings for their upcoming four-game road trip, Ansar Khan of MLive.com reports Friday.
Dylan Larkin C
Injured Reserveir-nr
Simon Edvinsson D
Injured ReserveEdvinsson (contract dispute) is on the Red Wings' injured, non-roster list, per the NHL media site Wednesday.
Panthers
4 listedSandis Vilmanis LW
−3 EloOutLed team in points 1/10 recent games
Vilmanis (undisclosed) will probably miss a few games, according to George Richards of Florida Hockey Now on Saturday.
Brad Marchand LW
Injured ReserveHead coach Paul Maurice said Friday that Marchand (knee) will travel with the Panthers during their upcoming three-game road trip, Jameson Olive of the Panthers' official site reports.
Aleksander Barkov C
Injured ReserveHead coach Paul Maurice said Friday that Barkov (knee) will travel with the Panthers during their upcoming three-game road trip, Jameson Olive of the Panthers' official site reports.
Jonah Gadjovich LW
Injured ReserveGadjovich (upper body) is out indefinitely, the team announced Thursday.
Recent form
Last five results, and whether the forecast hit.
Against the line
How each team has done against the closing spread and total, coming into this game.
| This season |  DET |  FLA |
|---|---|---|
| Puck line | 10–8 | 7–10 |
| Last 10 | 7–3 | 5–5 |
| Favorite | 3–7 | 5–7 |
| Underdog | 7–1 | 2–3 |
| Overs–unders | 9–9 | 7–10 |
| Overs–unders, last 10 | 5–5 | 4–6 |
Against each game's closing line. Books set every line knowing these records: across 3,901 past games, the team with the better record against the spread so far that season covered 51.2%, short of the 52.4% a standard −110 bet needs, and over/under streaks held 48.0% of the time. They describe the past.
Head to head
DET 5–7 FLA in their last 12 meetings; the forecast called 4 of 12.