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New Orleans Saints at Carolina Panthers, NFL forecast

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Away

Saints

2-8

17–7

at

Home

Panthers

5-5

NO 30%CAR 70%

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Bank of America Stadium · Fox

Win probability

Starts from the pregame forecast, then moves with every score and the time left. Above the line favors CAR; hover for each play.

CAR favored NO favored4 scoring plays
Q1Q2Q3Q4CAR50%NO

Game center

From the ESPN box score.

Top performers

Saints
Panthers

Scoring summary

  • Q410:20Juwan Johnson 30 Yd pass from Tyler Shough (Blake Grupe Kick)17–7
  • Q29:21Chris Olave 62 Yd pass from Tyler Shough (Blake Grupe Kick)10–7
  • Q12:52Blake Grupe 20 Yd Field Goal3–7
  • Q17:59Rico Dowdle 5 Yd Rush (Ryan Fitzgerald Kick)0–7

Turning points

The 4 plays that swung the win chance most, each judged at its own moment: the chance with the score just before it against just after.

  1. Q17:59Rico Dowdle 5 Yd Rush (Ryan Fitzgerald Kick)NO 0 – 7 CAR · CAR 69% → 83% +14
  2. Q12:52Blake Grupe 20 Yd Field GoalNO 3 – 7 CAR · NO 17% → 23% +6
  3. Q29:21Chris Olave 62 Yd pass from Tyler Shough (Blake Grupe Kick)NO 10 – 7 CAR · NO 23% → 43% +19
  4. Q410:20Juwan Johnson 30 Yd pass from Tyler Shough (Blake Grupe Kick)NO 17 – 7 CAR · NO 60% → 90% +31

The pick

Reconstructed from what was known before the game: the ratings at that point and the closing line.

Panthers 70%

SolidMiss
NO 30%CAR 70%

Forecast Elo ratings alone

How often that comes true: NFL favorites the forecast gave 65–70% have won 71.4% of 105 graded games.

Market
CAR -5.5
ML NO +210 / CAR -250
Pre-line forecast
CAR 76%
Elo + market-implied
Elo ratings
CAR -9
CAR 78%
Ratings vs. market
+9.0 pts
CAR: Elo 77.9%, market 68.9%
Fair odds
CAR -229
NO +229 · the forecast as odds, no margin
Pregame projection
NO 16.5 – 22.0 CAR
Posted spread, posted total 38.5

How the number is built

Elo inputs in rating points (higher favors that team; 25–28 Elo is about a point of spread in football and basketball), then how the pieces combine.

FactorNOCARWhy
Team rating13431435Elo entering the game; 1500 is league average
Home field—+36Worth 36 Elo in the NFL
Quarterbacks−86+5NO: Tyler Shough, usually Spencer Rattler · CAR: Bryce Young (against each team's recent starters, from the box score)
Elo ratingsCAR +219 EloCAR 77.9%
Market-implied ratingsCAR 70.0%Team strength as past closing lines priced it, same game context
Pre-line forecastCAR 76.1%75% Elo, 25% market-implied (log-odds blend)
ForecastCAR 69.6%93% market, 8% Elo

Tale of the tape

This season coming into the game, regular season, each number with its league rank (the longer the bar, the higher). Home and road: the host's record at home against the visitor's on the road. Opponent Elo: how strong the teams each has played are, 1st the toughest. Yards per play counts passes, sacks and runs, with sack yardage taken off.

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New Orleans Saints and Carolina Panthers compared, with each team's league rank
NOStatCAR
31st of 3215.3Points scored18.927th of 32
24th of 3227.0Points allowed22.815th of 32
31st of 32−11.7Margin−3.922nd of 32
30th of 324.72Yards per play4.9128th of 32
14th of 325.28Yards allowed per play5.5423rd of 32
30th of 320–4Road vs home3–15th of 32
4th of 321538Opponent Elo147327th of 32
29th of 321343Elo rating143523rd of 32

Rating history

Each team's Elo over the last two seasons. Hover or drag to compare on any date.

SaintsPanthers
130013501400145015001550league averageSepDecMarJunSep

Against the line

How each team has done against the closing spread and total, coming into this game.

This seasonNOCAR
Against the spread2–76–3
Last 102–76–3
Favorite1–0—
Underdog1–76–3
Overs–unders3–65–4
Overs–unders, last 103–65–4

Against each game's closing line. Books set every line knowing these records: across 3,901 past games, the team with the better record against the spread so far that season covered 51.2%, short of the 52.4% a standard −110 bet needs, and over/under streaks held 48.0% of the time. They describe the past.

Head to head

NO 3–1 CAR in their last 4 meetings; the forecast called 2 of 4.