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Detroit Pistons at New York Knicks, NBA forecast

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Pistons

41-13

126–111

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Knicks

35-21

DET 41%NY 59%

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Madison Square Garden · Prime Video, MSG

Win probability

Starts from the pregame forecast, then moves with every score and the time left. Above the line favors NY; hover for each play.

NY favored DET favored127 scoring plays
Q1Q2Q3Q4NY50%DET

Game center

From the ESPN box score.

Top performers

Pistons
Knicks

Last plays

  • Q40.0End of Game126–111
  • Q40.0End of the 4th Quarter126–111
  • Q412.0Javonte Green offensive rebound126–111
  • Q413.7Ausar Thompson misses running layup126–111
  • Q417.9Jose Alvarado bad pass turnover (Ausar Thompson steals)126–111
  • Q432.6Ausar Thompson makes running layup (Cade Cunningham assists)126–111
  • Q436.3Cade Cunningham defensive rebound124–111
  • Q438.2OG Anunoby misses 22-foot three point jumper124–111
  • Q446.6Paul Reed makes free throw 2 of 2124–111
  • Q446.6Javonte Green enters the game for Tobias Harris123–111

Turning points

The 5 plays that swung the win chance most, each judged at its own moment: the chance with the score just before it against just after.

  1. Q38:32Duncan Robinson makes 24-foot running jump shot (Cade Cunningham assists)DET 65 – 60 NY · DET 50% → 60% +9
  2. Q37:36Duncan Robinson makes 23-foot three point jumper (Cade Cunningham assists)DET 68 – 60 NY · DET 60% → 69% +9
  3. Q35:54Jalen Brunson makes 25-foot three pointerDET 72 – 67 NY · NY 30% → 39% +9
  4. Q35:38Cade Cunningham makes 26-foot three point jumper (Tobias Harris assists)DET 75 – 67 NY · DET 61% → 71% +9
  5. Q31:57Ronald Holland II makes 26-foot three point jumper (Cade Cunningham assists)DET 86 – 75 NY · DET 74% → 83% +8

The pick

Reconstructed from what was known before the game: the ratings at that point and the closing line.

Knicks 59%

LeanMiss
DET 41%NY 59%

Forecast Elo ratings alone

How often that comes true: NBA favorites the forecast gave 55–60% have won 59.4% of 433 graded games.

Market
NY -3.5
ML DET +136 / NY -162
Pre-line forecast
NY 53%
Elo + market-implied
Elo ratings
Pick ’em
NY 51%
Ratings vs. market
−8.4 pts
NY: Elo 50.9%, market 59.3%
Fair odds
NY -146
DET +146 · the forecast as odds, no margin
Pregame projection
DET 107.5 – 111.0 NY
Posted spread, posted total 218.5

How the number is built

Elo inputs in rating points (higher favors that team; 25–28 Elo is about a point of spread in football and basketball), then how the pieces combine.

FactorDETNYWhy
Team rating16301622Elo entering the game; 1500 is league average
Home field—+36Worth 36 Elo in the NBA
Lineups+28+7DET: Missing Jalen Duren −24 · otherwise stronger than recent lineups · NY: Stronger than its recent lineups (from the box score)
Elo ratingsNY +6 EloNY 50.9%
Market-implied ratingsNY 52.7%Team strength as past closing lines priced it, same game context
Pre-line forecastNY 52.5%10% Elo, 90% market-implied (log-odds blend)
ForecastNY 59.3%Follows the market (vig removed): in testing, adding the ratings made it less accurate

Tale of the tape

This season coming into the game, regular season, each number with its league rank (the longer the bar, the higher). Home and road: the host's record at home against the visitor's on the road. Opponent Elo: how strong the teams each has played are, 1st the toughest. Offense and defense are points per 100 possessions, which sets aside how fast a team plays.

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Detroit Pistons and New York Knicks compared, with each team's league rank
DETStatNY
10th of 30117.2Points scored118.17th of 30
3rd of 30109.3Points allowed111.96th of 30
2nd of 30+8.0Margin+6.34th of 30
10th of 30114.7Offense rating117.63rd of 30
2nd of 30106.9Defense rating111.410th of 30
14th of 30101.8Pace99.724th of 30
2nd of 308–2Last 108–22nd of 30
2nd of 3018–7Road vs home21–74th of 30
27th of 301486Opponent Elo148528th of 30
4th of 301630Elo rating16225th of 30

Who's playing

Who sat out, from the box score, and what each absence cost against the lineups the team had been playing.

All player ratings →

Pistons

+28 Elo
  • Jalen Duren suspended by league−24 Elo

Knicks

+7 Elo

Full strength: nobody who matters sat out.

Rating history

Each team's Elo over the last two seasons. Hover or drag to compare on any date.

PistonsKnicks
1450155016501750league averageNovJanMarMayJulSepNov

Against the line

How each team has done against the closing spread and total, coming into this game.

This seasonDETNY
Against the spread29–2430–26
Last 106–48–2
Favorite20–2326–21
Underdog9–14–5
Overs–unders21–3229–27
Overs–unders, last 104–65–5

Against each game's closing line. Books set every line knowing these records: across 3,901 past games, the team with the better record against the spread so far that season covered 51.2%, short of the 52.4% a standard −110 bet needs, and over/under streaks held 48.0% of the time. They describe the past.

Head to head

DET 7–8 NY in their last 15 meetings; the forecast called 8 of 15.