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Detroit Pistons at Phoenix Suns, NBA forecast

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Pistons

12-17

133–125

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Home

Suns

14-13

DET 32%PHX 68%

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Win probability

Starts from the pregame forecast, then moves with every score and the time left. Above the line favors PHX; hover for each play.

PHX favored DET favored131 scoring plays
Q1Q2Q3Q4PHX50%DET

Game center

From the ESPN box score.

Top performers

Pistons
Suns

Last plays

  • Q40.0End of Game133–125
  • Q40.0End of the 4th Quarter133–125
  • Q46.0Malik Beasley defensive rebound133–125
  • Q410.1Bradley Beal misses driving layup133–125
  • Q416.1Cade Cunningham makes free throw 2 of 2133–125
  • Q416.1Cade Cunningham makes free throw 1 of 2132–125
  • Q416.1Ryan Dunn personal take foul131–125
  • Q416.2Ryan Dunn makes driving dunk (Bradley Beal assists)131–125
  • Q423.0Royce O'Neale defensive rebound131–123
  • Q424.0Malik Beasley misses free throw 2 of 2131–123

Turning points

The 5 plays that swung the win chance most, each judged at its own moment: the chance with the score just before it against just after.

  1. Q33:46Malik Beasley makes 26-foot three point jumper (Tobias Harris assists)DET 92 – 84 PHX · DET 58% → 68% +10
  2. Q33:31Kevin Durant makes 22-foot three point jumper (Bradley Beal assists)DET 92 – 87 PHX · PHX 32% → 42% +10
  3. Q46:20Royce O'Neale makes 26-foot running pullup jump shot (Kevin Durant assists)DET 113 – 108 PHX · PHX 16% → 29% +13
  4. Q43:29Royce O'Neale makes 25-foot three point jumper (Kevin Durant assists)DET 120 – 115 PHX · PHX 8% → 20% +12
  5. Q42:11Malik Beasley makes 23-foot three point jumper (Jaden Ivey assists)DET 125 – 119 PHX · DET 74% → 91% +18

The pick

Reconstructed from what was known before the game: the ratings at that point and the closing line.

Suns 68%

SolidMiss
DET 32%PHX 68%

Forecast Elo ratings alone

How often that comes true: NBA favorites the forecast gave 65–70% have won 65.2% of 388 graded games.

Market
PHX -5.5
ML DET +195 / PHX -240
Pre-line forecast
PHX 67%
Elo + market-implied
Elo ratings
PHX -3.5
PHX 64%
Ratings vs. market
−3.8 pts
PHX: Elo 63.7%, market 67.6%
Fair odds
PHX -208
DET +208 · the forecast as odds, no margin
Pregame projection
DET 110.0 – 115.5 PHX
Posted spread, posted total 225.5

How the number is built

Elo inputs in rating points (higher favors that team; 25–28 Elo is about a point of spread in football and basketball), then how the pieces combine.

FactorDETPHXWhy
Team rating14001524Elo entering the game; 1500 is league average
Home field—+36Worth 36 Elo in the NBA
Lineups+12−49DET: Stronger than its recent lineups · PHX: Weaker than its recent lineups (from the box score)
Elo ratingsPHX +98 EloPHX 63.7%
Market-implied ratingsPHX 66.8%Team strength as past closing lines priced it, same game context
Pre-line forecastPHX 66.5%10% Elo, 90% market-implied (log-odds blend)
ForecastPHX 67.6%Follows the market (vig removed): in testing, adding the ratings made it less accurate

Tale of the tape

This season coming into the game, regular season, each number with its league rank (the longer the bar, the higher). Home and road: the host's record at home against the visitor's on the road. Offense and defense are points per 100 possessions, which sets aside how fast a team plays.

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Detroit Pistons and Phoenix Suns compared, with each team's league rank
DETStatPHX
20th of 30110.9Points scored113.811th of 30
20th of 30114.3Points allowed114.421st of 30
21st of 30−3.3Margin−0.516th of 30
22nd of 30108.9Offense rating114.07th of 30
17th of 30112.2Defense rating114.624th of 30
18th of 30100.3Pace99.224th of 30
21st of 304–6Last 105–512th of 30
18th of 306–9Road vs home9–512th of 30

Who's playing

Who sat out, from the box score, and what each absence cost against the lineups the team had been playing.

All player ratings →

Pistons

+12 Elo

Full strength: nobody who matters sat out.

Suns

−49 Elo

Full strength: nobody who matters sat out.

Rating history

Each team's Elo over the last two seasons. Hover or drag to compare on any date.

PistonsSuns
1400145015001550160016501700league averageNovJanMarMayJulSepNov

Against the line

How each team has done against the closing spread and total, coming into this game.

This seasonDETPHX
Against the spread14–149–17
Last 104–64–6
Favorite2–76–9
Underdog12–73–8
Overs–unders14–1415–11
Overs–unders, last 107–35–5

Against each game's closing line. Books set every line knowing these records: across 3,901 past games, the team with the better record against the spread so far that season covered 51.2%, short of the 52.4% a standard −110 bet needs, and over/under streaks held 48.0% of the time. They describe the past.

Head to head

DET 0–2 PHX in their last 2 meetings; the forecast called 1 of 2.