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Detroit Pistons at New York Knicks, NBA forecast

FinalTSN, FanDuel SN DET

Away

Pistons

8-49

111–113

at

Home

Knicks

35-23

DET 26%NY 74%

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Madison Square Garden · TSN, FanDuel SN DET

Win probability

Starts from the pregame forecast, then moves with every score and the time left. Above the line favors NY; hover for each play.

NY favored DET favored116 scoring plays
Q1Q2Q3Q4NY50%DET

Game center

From the ESPN box score.

Top performers

Pistons
Knicks

Last plays

  • Q40.0End of Game111–113
  • Q40.0End of the 4th Quarter111–113
  • Q41.1Josh Hart offensive rebound111–113
  • Q41.1Josh Hart misses free throw 2 of 2111–113
  • Q41.1Josh Hart makes free throw 1 of 2111–113
  • Q41.1Ausar Thompson personal foul111–112
  • Q41.1Isaiah Hartenstein offensive rebound111–112
  • Q42.1Josh Hart misses free throw 1 of 1111–112
  • Q42.1Jalen Duren shooting foul111–112
  • Q42.1Josh Hart makes layup (Jalen Brunson assists)111–112

Turning points

The 5 plays that swung the win chance most, each judged at its own moment: the chance with the score just before it against just after.

  1. Q44:50Donte DiVincenzo makes 24-foot three point shot (Jalen Brunson assists)DET 101 – 104 NY · NY 58% → 76% +18
  2. Q43:49Quentin Grimes makes 25-foot three point jumper (Ausar Thompson assists)DET 106 – 104 NY · DET 36% → 57% +22
  3. Q42:00Ausar Thompson makes 23-foot three point jumper (Cade Cunningham assists)DET 109 – 110 NY · DET 12% → 35% +22
  4. Q437.1Quentin Grimes makes driving layup (Simone Fontecchio assists)DET 111 – 110 NY · DET 30% → 65% +35
  5. Q42.1Josh Hart makes layup (Jalen Brunson assists)DET 111 – 112 NY · NY 3% → 97% +95

The pick

Reconstructed from what was known before the game: the ratings at that point.

Knicks 74%

StrongHit
DET 26%NY 74%

Forecast Elo ratings alone

How often that comes true: NBA favorites the forecast gave 70–75% have won 75.3% of 360 graded games.

Market
No line yet
Pre-line forecast
NY 74%
Elo + market-implied
Elo ratings
NY -9
NY 81%
Fair odds
NY -286
DET +286 · the forecast as odds, no margin
Pregame projection
DET 109.2 – 117.1 NY
Margin from the forecast, total from team scoring ratings

How the number is built

Elo inputs in rating points (higher favors that team; 25–28 Elo is about a point of spread in football and basketball), then how the pieces combine.

FactorDETNYWhy
Team rating13561579Elo entering the game; 1500 is league average
Home field—+36Worth 36 Elo in the NBA
Lineups−6−16DET: Weaker than its recent lineups · NY: Weaker than its recent lineups (from the box score)
Elo ratingsNY +249 EloNY 80.8%
Market-implied ratingsNY 73.3%Team strength as past closing lines priced it, same game context
Pre-line forecastNY 74.1%10% Elo, 90% market-implied (log-odds blend)

Tale of the tape

This season coming into the game, regular season, each number with its league rank (the longer the bar, the higher). Home and road: the host's record at home against the visitor's on the road. Offense and defense are points per 100 possessions, which sets aside how fast a team plays.

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Detroit Pistons and New York Knicks compared, with each team's league rank
DETStatNY
22nd of 30112.8Points scored114.219th of 30
27th of 30121.9Points allowed109.83rd of 30
28th of 30−9.1Margin+4.46th of 30
25th of 30109.6Offense rating116.29th of 30
29th of 30118.5Defense rating111.79th of 30
7th of 30102.3Pace98.329th of 30
25th of 302–8Last 104–621st of 30
30th of 304–24Road vs home19–99th of 30

Who's playing

Who sat out, from the box score, and what each absence cost against the lineups the team had been playing.

All player ratings →

Pistons

−6 Elo

Full strength: nobody who matters sat out.

Knicks

−16 Elo

Full strength: nobody who matters sat out.

Rating history

Each team's Elo over the last two seasons. Hover or drag to compare on any date.

PistonsKnicks
1450155016501750league averageNovJanMarMayJulSepNov

Head to head

DET 0–1 NY in their last 1 meeting; the forecast called 1 of 1.